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« on: Sun 14 Sep 08, 23:28 »

Oh my days did you see this?

I think the guy should be banned and can't believe the FA haven't intervened on this.

He had a go at Craig Fagan once then just absolutely whalloped him. I know Newcastle are in crisis, but that was inexcusable.

Imagine if it was Robbo? they'd throw the book at him I reckon. We'd never hear the last of it.

Disgraceful.
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« Reply #1 on: Sun 14 Sep 08, 23:39 »
Quote from: I8WOLVES on Sun 14 Sep 08, 23:28

Oh my days did you see this?

I think the guy should be banned and can't believe the FA haven't intervened on this.

He had a go at Craig Fagan once then just absolutely whalloped him. I know Newcastle are in crisis, but that was inexcusable.

Imagine if it was Robbo? they'd throw the book at him I reckon. We'd never hear the last of it.

Disgraceful.

agreed

nafti who plays for the blues his challenge was awful and then he had a go at the blues fans

was a bad challenge from guthrie he tryed once didn't kick him hard enough so tryed again awful
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« Reply #2 on: Sun 14 Sep 08, 23:40 »
Quote from: mossi28 on Sun 14 Sep 08, 23:39
Quote from: I8WOLVES on Sun 14 Sep 08, 23:28

Oh my days did you see this?

I think the guy should be banned and can't believe the FA haven't intervened on this.

He had a go at Craig Fagan once then just absolutely whalloped him. I know Newcastle are in crisis, but that was inexcusable.

Imagine if it was Robbo? they'd throw the book at him I reckon. We'd never hear the last of it.

Disgraceful.

agreed

nafti who plays for the blues his challenge was awful and then he had a go at the blues fans

was a bad challenge from guthrie he tryed once didn't kick him hard enough so tryed again awful

what did nafti do to the blues fans?

was shocking by guthrie
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« Reply #3 on: Sun 14 Sep 08, 23:55 »
All i herd was he had a go at the blues fans as he was walking off the field
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« Reply #4 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 00:05 »
Shocking erm..not exactly a challenge was it. More of an assualt.
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« Reply #5 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 00:05 »
I thought it was hilarious Gutherie's tackle Grin
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« Reply #6 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 15:02 »
Fagan got a broken leg due to that challenge, I hope they throw the book at Guthrie, been taking lessons from Barton no doubt.
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« Reply #7 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 15:10 »
Quote from: Bilston Dan on Mon 15 Sep 08, 00:05
I thought it was hilarious Gutherie's tackle Grin

I doubt you would be laughing if you were on the recieving end and im sure Fagan isn't laughing given it broke his leg.
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« Reply #8 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 15:18 »
He hasn't broke his leg surely? He was on his feet chasing Guthrie after the challenge!
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« Reply #9 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 15:19 »
Quote from: Lloydy on Mon 15 Sep 08, 15:18
He hasn't broke his leg surely? He was on his feet chasing Guthrie after the challenge!

Just been confirmed on SSN he has broke it.

Had little f***er then, wanted to take everyone on at the time  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 15:46 »
Have been looking for footage of the tackle on the net... but with no luck. Anybody got any links?
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« Reply #11 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 16:07 »
Quote from: Lloydy on Mon 15 Sep 08, 15:18
He hasn't broke his leg surely? He was on his feet chasing Guthrie after the challenge!

Its been confirmed on SSN. As for him getting up I know someone who did his cruciate and played on for 45 minutes! Shocked
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« Reply #12 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 16:16 »
I tried to "run off" a broken leg. It got as far as my boot making contact with the ground before collapsing in agony.
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« Reply #13 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 16:32 »
Well that makes it even worse.

I would sue him him if I was Fagan. The FA have to do something now surely!

Must serve an extended ban at least. Maybe lifetime, it was that bad.
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« Reply #14 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 16:36 »
Are you suing him for intent or the outcome? It's impossible to prove he went in with the intention of breaking his leg. If you were able to sue on the basis of the outcome then imagine how many players would be getting sued? Martin Taylor was last years high profile player who broke an opposing players leg, yet it was accidental. Intent not there, outcome was.

Had Guthrie gone in intending to break Fagans leg, yet failed... do you still have grounds to sue?

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« Reply #15 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 16:37 »
Taff, when you see it, there is no way Guthrie can say he didn't intend to do damage.
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« Reply #16 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 16:42 »
Quote from: OldburyWBA on Mon 15 Sep 08, 16:37
Taff, when you see it, there is no way Guthrie can say he didn't intend to do damage.

Fair do's. So what happens if no damage occurs? Sue him for intent?

It's a huge can of worms.

At the end of the day, however long Fagan is out for Hull City will be paying him £X000(0) a week. So he's going to be no worse off - Apperance / Goal bonuses pending. Unless when he comes back he's half the player.

Like I say... Can of worms.
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« Reply #17 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 17:03 »
Are you trying to say Taff that if you cause a serious injury to someone as the result of a car accident then as long as you didn't intend to cause that injury or even intend to have the accident then they shouldn't receive any compensation for lost earnings or out of pocket expenses?

Or on a more relevant note, a professional workman drops a tool from his belt while up a ladder in the performance of his duties. The tool causes an injury be it to a colleague or a member of the general public but the man didn't intend to injure anyone so no case to answer?

His employer should have insurance to cover him during the performance of his duties.  If he was found to be negligent then he becomes personally liable. If these players choose to make these 'challenges' then they have to take responsibility for the outcome whether they intend it or not!
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« Reply #18 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 17:47 »

Well the intent was there, he tried to hurt him and did. You can't even call it a tackle, it was a straight out assault.

We'll have to wait and see how big a deal the press/media make of it but for me it was worse than what Martin Taylor did and look how he was treated.
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« Reply #19 on: Mon 15 Sep 08, 17:49 »
Quote from: I8WOLVES on Mon 15 Sep 08, 17:47

Well the intent was there, he tried to hurt him and did. You can't even call it a tackle, it was a straight out assault.

We'll have to wait and see how big a deal the press/media make of it but for me it was worse than what Martin Taylor did and look how he was treated.

Agree with that, difference is though, this was only a Hull player not an Arsenal one so no-one in the media gives a toss.
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